from training.npr.org: https://training.npr.org/sources/dr-joris-m-ray/
Joris M. Ray is the superintendent of Shelby County Schools in Tennessee and an expert in K-12 education. Ray grew up in Memphis and attended Shelby County Schools, graduating from Whitehaven High School. He went on to earn his Ph.D. in educational leadership and policy studies from the University of Memphis.
Dr. Wayne Riley is 17th president of SUNY Downstate Medical Center. He is a primary care general internist with experience in academic medicine, patient care, research administration, academic health center administration, health care management, health policy, biotechnology, the corporate sector, government service, advocacy and organized medicine.