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women and religion
Laila Lalami is a Moroccan-American writer and a professor of creative writing at the University of California, Riverside. Her essays and opinion pieces have appeared in the Los Angeles Times, The Washington Post, The Nation, the Guardian, The New York Times and in many anthologies.
Anthea Butler is an associate professor of religious studies and Africana studies at the University of Pennsylvania. Her books include Women in the Church of God in Christ: Making A Sanctified World (2012) and White Evangelical Racism: The Politics of Morality in America (2021).